this bike does sound nice on paper. I have done it a number of times with the regular bike, I'd love to do it with the Norco. Norco's VLT GEN 3 720W battery is the goldilocks battery choice for Norco VLT riders who want the best of worlds. It's burly enough to handle any terrain on earth, but not unwieldy or brutish. The indicator is a nice touch so you can charge the battery off the bike and clearly see when you are charged up. It's easiest to remove the battery fixing bolt with the bike upside down, but the battery won't slide out in that orientation because the bolt remains nested in the indent where it threads in. This MacGyver by Deniz lasted for several rides and was still going strong when I decided to do the repair. I could imagine getting the Norco myabe just under 20kg without being crazy, wheels, tyres, cassette, cranks, seatpost sundry other items. Safety Your safety is a top priority so always wear a helmet when you ride your bike. Heres how the weight stacks up against some of the other e-MTBs weve tested over the past year or so; Given its substantial bulk and raked-out geometry, itll come as no surprise that the Norco Sight VLT offers a ridiculous amount of stability. This gives riders the choice of what battery (and weight) they want to run. Simply input your height, weight, skill level and riding position, and out spits the recommended air pressures and damper settings. Or choose the 720Wh battery if you want something in between. 00. . Not available in the UK according to the Norco website. This is the new Focus Jam2 and Sam2. The Sight impressed me in the air initially and that impression has only grown. Removable batteries also allows Norco to fine tune the VLT's. The batteries come in three sizes, and can be purchased separately. Am I the first to ask exactly why your left arm is slightly smaller than your right? Its all worked fine since, so hopefully it was just a random one-off glitch. no issues since. I've been dealing with a weird and as-yet-undiagnosed health issue for some time that unpredictably impacts my cardio performance. And no doubt The Industry will offer options that many of us find reprehensible/destructive/out of line with our firmly held beliefs about what a bike is, but as far as the infighting about who gets to use an ebike, we could all benefit from chilling out, and letting people do their thang. 2021 Identiti Mettle Mountain Bike 16" Small Frame Full Suspension 160mm Enduro. Batteries are encased within the downtube for protection and can be easily removed for charging on and off the bike or for easy swaps. There is a bit of an eyebrow raise at the chainstay length however. If you only plan on doing quick blasts, grab the 540, if you're hungry for watts, distance, and boost-level climbing, the 900 is for you. THE-GUNT wrote: Post pics and conversation tips on your 2022 Norco VLT eMTB'S. Down here in aus, expected delivery is Now July 2022 for the sight VLT C1 . Even though this handles surpringly well for its heft, it's really turned me off to this type of ebike", "coming from someone whom typically does emtb rides on a Levo". Had a derailleur problem after a stack and replaced the NX with XO. There are 540Wh, 720Wh and 900Wh options, with the latter being the single biggest battery on the market (and also one of the heaviest); Why three options? I did not have to drop the motor to install the dropper (One Up so runs a cable) but the kink between the down tube inner tubing and the "up and over" on the front of the motor required some gorilla gripping as the cable outer definitely does not slide like it should. Of course this ability explains one of the veiled reasons some people dislike eMTBs so vehemently. Digging through various drawers I eventually found a short length of surgical hose that came with some sealant. No XL and bringing the battery inside easily is a major plus for me in winter. Made from reliable 21700 lithium-ion cells, you can be certain that typical battery degradation will be consistent and slow. I'm getting used to having it around and enjoying the options it provides; sneaking out for a quick burn when my window of opportunity is impossibly short, or going for a longer, tougher adventure starting and finishing from home, and doing it all in less time. Was exactly what I was looking for in terms of long term review. NSMB Home Menu ToggleLog-inSearch Toggle Instagram Twitter Facebook Youtube Subscribe Home Menu Close Gear Bikes Enduro Trail DH / Freeride Fat / Plus Hardtails Slopestyle / DJ / BMX Women's XC eMTB Pig ugliest AM/Enduro/XC/DH bikes out there if yours is a pig post it! Monster-trucking down gnarly, wide-open descents, the Sight VLT is totally in its element. The one exception is the low BB. Despite this I rolled in brimming with confidence in front of Deniz' lens, only to hang up the bike with a hard hit on the motor bulkhead, pitching me forward for a moment. I prefer the spec on the Norco in terms of suspension and brakes, while the finish and details on the Rocky frame are superior. 5 minutes to do a 5 minute service vs frustrating hours - hell yes! A big thumbs up to Norco for specing tough DoubleDown casings. The plug also acts as a barrier from the elements, keeping debris from getting into the cavity and the head of the battery fixing bolt ensuring cleaner battery removal and installation. Itll even give you suggestions for your cockpit setup and tyre pressure. I could even say the same thing about mtb's too as I've seen more than enough newbies making the same sort of mistakes you mention. The dual 29in wheels and enormous wheelbase means its a bit of a handful on really tight, slow and janky singletrack. Ultimately the Norco Range VLT C1 is a good bike with an intended user and terrain, if it's in your wheelhouse, you will enjoy what it offers. About the Norco Sight VLT C1 2022. 2023 Cube Stereo Hybrid emtb with ABS - who asked for that. Plus you'll probably have to drop the drive unit to replace the dropper post cable / housing. My horrible experience with Rockshox Zeb Ultimate 2023, Raw / Polished - Bikes & Frames - No paint allowed, My kids just outgrew their 24" bikes. As Andrew rightly pointed out, you did specify your angst with the Norco C1 in particular. Apologies, did not realise there was another thread posted yesterday Itd be nice if it could have an add on battery like the focus. Class 2 also offers pedal-assist up to 20 mph, but also has a throttle-powered mode that allows users to engage the motor. Replacing the battery can be even trickier. Offering more than 66% range than the 540W battery ensures that you'll never experience range anxiety. The center of gravity feels foreign - coming from someone whom typically does emtb rides on a Levo. Watching some of the local experts at this, namely Wade Simmons and Olympian Andreas Hestler, is inspiring. Is it the shock linkage and shock length the only difference that is creating the different models. Of course we cant talk about the state of the e-MTB market without mentioning the Specialized Levo. Posted in: Here running a Rock Shox Superdeluxe Ultimate coil and no worries on bottoming out. Yikes! This new iteration is not an inherently poppy or playful bike, and the long chainstays mean that shorter riders are likely to find the overall length a handful, especially since its so heavy. Posted: Jan 31, 2022 at 13:10. COLOR: Deep Red/Cherry Red Size: Buy now OR Add to cart Just seen 22.3kg for a size m - thats impressive with the bigger battery. Norco has come up with a system that allows you to run a 540, 720 or 900 watt-hour battery in the same frame. Trevor solved his issue with the Bluetooth connection to his phone (quite easily), but I never bothered. Does new bike (suspension) require servicing? Love this bike. I did remove the motor and it wasn't bad at all actually. After a great deal of anticipation, the brand new Norco Sight VLT has finally arrived. And don't even get me started on the incompatibility with the three 1.8" steerer lower bearings/ crown race parts (One from ACROS and two from FSA) that are available but within a framework of a total lack of publicly available information and clear part number labelling. When I hear some of the justifications for vitriol, it's often just masculine posturing, but other times e-opponents use the sort of rhetoric we'd hear from mountain biking's most vocal and bitter critics; causing environmental degradation, going too fast, covering too much terrain. Unfortunately I always forget until I get slapped to the ground several times. We found no need to shove the saddle forwards on the rails. Electric Mountain Bikes, . The Maxxis Assegai DD MaxxTerra up front has been surprisingly durable considering the number of road miles that I've put in getting to and from the mountains. Doing it upright works but there isn't enough room for the battery to slide all the way out without lifting the rear wheel. Made from reliable 21700 lithium-ion cells, you can be certain that typical battery degradation will be consistent and slow. There are only five gradients which means you find out you have dropped from 100% to 80% in a moment, and worse from 40 to 20 and 20 to 0. This was made worse for a time when I lost one of the bolts that keep the motor cover in place, but replacing the bolt has improved it some. The Sight VLT is also the better technical climber, with a better seated position and a more grounded performance on uber-steep inclines. VLT Battery Install. Tasty - according to website not available in UK? What does seem pretty clear though is that you don't like ebikes and have some pretty biased views of them and the people who ride them. Prices kick off at $8,599 AUD for the Norco Sight A2 VLT, and top out at $12,599 AUD for the Norco Sight C1 VLT. Right now well be diving into our experience of testing the second model from the top the Norco Sight C2 VLT. We've been testing the 2020 Norco Sight VLT C1 29 for the past couple of months - read on for the full review to see what this electric mountain bike really is really capable of; http://flowmountainbike.com/tests/2020-norco-sight-vlt-c1-29er-review-ebike/Wondering how the Norco stacks up against the Merida eOne-Sixty we've also been testing? Aside from going out and deliberately trying to ride the battery flat, we generally found our body and brain wearing out long before the battery died. I've been on a vlt 1 for almost a year now. While the weight does contribute to the Sight VLTs planted performance on high-speed descents, all of that stability of course doesnt come for free. No, we wouldnt. I was happy with the settings and nothing needed to be adjusted. Do you think you'd be enjoying riding as much overall if you didn't have an ebike in your life? 900wh - 1700 CAD - 4570g/10lbs. I have been eyeing the options on the ebike market more or less seriously for the last six months as the industry has begun to offer some appealing options after what seemed to be a Paleolithic Period of ebike development. The Sight motor and interface was also less finicky, particularly in the cold weather, while the lower spec Altitude C70 can be yours for 11,400 CAD, battery included, which is comparable to the Sight C2. the last step, through the chainstay, involved detaching the stay at the pivot and reaching in (chainstay is open at the pivot end) with a tool to press the housing into the exit hole. Working blind, I tried to manipulate the housing into the internal opening of the exit port. My comment was made in the context of the entirety of that post tho, particularly the parts about labeling people a certain way. Those bikes are markedly more playful than the Sight VLT, and easier to ride across a wider range of trails. I now feel qualified to birth a calf or spay a heifer. No doubt about it, the Norco Sight VLT is one heavy bike. The back end delivers a smooth and active feel, though its now much more resistant to bottoming out, in part thanks to the addition of the MegNeg air can. The fork in particular has really come alive since making these changes. This changes at speed and the bike feels less different from a pedal bike as the velocity increases. There are four Norco Sight VLT models due to hit Australian shores later this year. Yeap, we're up in your social medias too. But is bigger always better?Read on for our full review: https://flowmountainbike.com/tests/2022-norco-sight-vlt-review-emtb/---------------------------------------------------------------------------2022 Norco Sight C2 VLT Review0:00 - Intro1:15 - Norco Sight VLT Overview2:22 - Shimano EP8 Motor \u0026 3 Battery Options3:08 - Geometry4:06 - Norco Sight VLT Price \u0026 Specs5:18 - Norco Sight VLT Weight5:28 - Strengths8:20 - Weaknesses10:35 - Norco Sight VLT Range Test11:26 - Battery \u0026 Motor Details12:41 - Norco Sight VLT vs The Competition13:06 - Flow's Verdict---------------------------------------------------------------------------Love mountain biking? Its more expensive and its also heavier, putting more weight higher up and closer to the head tube, which does affect handling something well get onto in a moment. Solving a challenging up for the first time is almost as gratifying as completing a previously unconquered drop or rock face. * Hopefully I'll have another overnight revelation and get everything sorted. *I just had a promising strategy come to me in fact. Of course a smaller rear wheel also gives shorter riders a little more arse clearance when hanging off the back of the bike on a really steep descent. bike still rode but no level displayed. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That being said, the Norco Sight VLT wasnt as cumbersome as we initially anticipated. Rules on first page. Its still not as powerful as the Bosch equivalent, and you also get less overrun from the EP8 motor when you have to pause pedalling momentarily to avoid a crank strike. Norco Sight VLT A2 E-Bike. That got us to 20% seated sag for the fork, and 30% for the shock. Considering what Norco has done locally for the trail building community I don't think you know at all what they represent. I think your judgement was accurate. Check out the comparative feature here: https://flowmountainbike.com/tests/2020-merida-eone-sixty-vs-2020-norco-sight-vlt-29er---------------------------------------------------------------------------2020 Norco Sight VLT 29er Review0:00 - Intro0:26 - The Sight VLT Review0:54 - Wheelsize \u0026 Travel1:37 - Geometry2:33 - Build Kit2:44 - Frame Features \u0026 Piggyback Battery3:26 - The Lineup3:55 - Sizing4:37 - Suspension Setup5:32 - Weight5:41 - Strengths8:34 - Shimano STEPS E80009:45 - Weaknesses11:07 - The Verdict---------------------------------------------------------------------------Love mountain biking? I don't recall being as spent in recent years as I have been trying to follow Wade and Dre's impossible climbing routes. It's very close for me but one thing that tips the scale in the Norco's favour is the availability of the 900wh battery. Visually, the Norco looks like a bloated athlete whom is taking too many performance enhancing drugs without any self awareness. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Turning the bike upside down and wearing a headlamp, I could see there was a short gap between the entry/exit port and the internal tubing where the housing needed to cross from one side of the massive down tube to the other in a short distance. The Spinlok plug is comprised of a thru-bolt and nut with an expanding rubber mid-section. The Sight hits most of the right notes for me. I externalized the derailleur and dropper cables and secured with zip ties. This gives each model and spec a range of prices. Psi, spacers, rebound and all that. Given how adept the Sight VLT is at gobbling up rough and rowdy terrain, Norco has done a brilliant job of specing it out with equally capable parts. The 720Wh Norco VLT Generation 3 Battery offers 33% more range than the smaller 540Wh Norco VLT Generation 3 Battery with a marginal 690g weight penalty (for the number crunchers, it's a small 22% penalty). The Norco Sight VLT C1 29 EBike is a carbon electric allmountain bike with Norcos legendary descending capability quick confident climbing and the boost you want to ride faster and further. REAR SHOCK Fox FLOAT X2, Performance Elite Chassis, Custom Factory-Level Spec &. Along with the custom Super Deluxe shock, its a terrifically plush and responsive package that can still monster-truck like the Sight VLT. There is about 800 gms in the motor and I'm guessing about 1600-1700 gms in the battery so circa 2.5kgs? Maxon drivesystem w. Bikes . Agree with the other poster that it sometimes appears that the engineers have not really thought through the servicing of the bike (or component). Bold inputs are rewarded, particularly in the slower speed situations common on the North Shore. I agree with you Mark. Its features include dropper seatpost, boost 110 , and boost 148. The top-end 2022 Norco Range VLT C1 retails at $8,399 USD. The geometry, suspension kinematics, component choices, and most of the fit and finish are very well sorted for the kind of riding I do normally, and yet easily adaptable to more mellow terrain. Rivaling the Levo for integration. Does anyone have an issue with battery removal ? The Assegai/Dissector tyre combo is absolutely superb, and were thrilled to see DoubleDown casings. Wed also love to see the option of a mullet setup for the Norco Sight VLT. The rear end has been sorted from the get go using Norco's Ride Aligned setup guide, and it got me close for a solid starting point. If you're somewhere in the middle there's a 720 as well. Norco Sight VLT A2 900w E-Mountain Bike 2022 sku# 212066 Select Color: Red /Black Select Size: L L Size Chart Sell Out Risk: High to Very High (1-2 remaining) $6,798.00 Earn $679 in Rewards Join Free Out of Stock Online Find In Store Similar Items Norco Fluid VLT A1 900w E-Mountain Bike 2022 $6,498.00 Here's a couple questions for you. The charge port door is also awkward to grasp and open. I would have thought the carbon frame would lose quite a bit of weight compared to all the full alloy models. While the previous statement remains true, the Sight almost claimed me on a move (seen below) I'd only done a couple of times before. The user interface on the Rocky also gets the nod over the Shimano display and controls. It used to be that I'd have a similar kind of fall if I was out of shape, and particularly when my core strength was poor; I'd plant a foot after losing my balance, feeling like I was safe, and then find myself flung to ground like a cartoon rabbit. Safety When cycling always take safety very seriously. I'm 5' 10", 215lbs with gear and tend to plow and currently have a Ripmo AF with a 550lbs spring on a Jade X that's perfect. The next step was to remove the battery to get a view of what was going on. The display is fine overall but the battery level indicator is a miss. Flow Mountain Bike 59.6K subscribers The new Norco Sight VLT features improved suspension performance, the excellent Shimano EP8 motor, and the option to fit a whopping 900Wh battery. The frame features a removable battery for easy . The Specialized Levo Pro we reviewed comes in at almost double the price of the Norco Sight C2 VLT. Shimano Deore Drivetrain. Its not impossible, it just requires a more active riding style compared to the lighter and more agile e-MTBs weve tested. I could just barely reach the end and only with my slightly smaller left arm. Recently I've also been riding the Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay C70 and there are some interesting points of comparison. The dumbing down of eMTBs will be inevitable- the gradually increasing amount of power will necessitate traction control systems. I've spent most of my time riding with the 900 and despite its extra girth, it's the one I'd choose because it opens up so many options. We did have one occasion where the bike wouldnt turn on before a ride, which was solved by removing and reinstalling the battery. If you think riding an eMTB isn't a good workout, or physically demanding in general, find riders who are doing this sort of thing and tag along. And this brings us to our next point the fact that the Norco Sight VLT is 29er specific, with no option to fit a smaller 27.5in rear wheel. You can get a piggy back for the Rocky but that's not as clean and integrated as the Sight. And sadly there will always be a couple of bad actors out there using the same toys as us, but making bad choices about their use. In berms in particular, this thing is a tracking monster, and again the excellent grip comes into play. To my dismay the old housing detached from the new immediately because of the need to negotiate some unguided curves. From these initial settings I pushed my fork to 90 psi and lowered the shock to 204. The Ride-Alligned recommended a 600lbs spring which I think I will need to buy aftermarket. My plan is to get an old piece of housing in there, with some bending to get it to reach the proper exit, and then attach the replacement housing and thread it through. These revelations have amplified my e-riding pleasure further and this often influences my chosen route. FRAME Aluminum, 150mm Travel, Ride Aligned 02. Check out our Trek Rail review for more. ", "I've been riding one of these in the same spec with the 900 battery. Gear. These discoveries were a little disappointing, but having never attempted to string cables and lines through any other eMTBs, I can't say that Norco is better or worse than the others. Having tested the last two iterations the Norco Sight VLT 27.5 in 2019, and the Norco Sight VLT 29 in 2020 we were intrigued to see how the Canadian brand would improve on its electric all-rounder. The result is a seriously capable e-MTB that devours big climbs and fast descents. If I pushed from the bottom, the housing would simply push straight toward the front of the bike and buckle rather than making the corner. Some of the best I've seen in fact and it's clear that the derailleur housing (green) is meant to span the width of the down tube from left to right as shown in the image. After about 15 tries I got the end into the opening of the port but no further. 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