", MacArthur is married to his wife, Patricia. Finally that book! Market data provided by Factset. Reiterating his stance on 1 Timothy 2:12, he went on to state, "There is no case that can be made biblically for a woman preacher. Well, given that many years ago I encouraged one of our young people to complete his studies at Spurgeons College and accept an internship at First Dallas Baptist, it would have to be that one. Will you not come and revive us? Sums it all up. Im afraid that the influence of the US mega churches such as Elevation is felt throughout the world. However, I was somewhat alarmed by the endorsement of Matt Chandler as a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived. 3) You respond by providing no evidence and say that you are not against mega churches. So First Dallas Baptist is an acceptable mega church but the Village church isnt? [47] In August 2021, MacArthur told congregants that "many people" had contracted COVID-19 while it "went through" the church in December 2020 and January 2021, including both him and his wife. Marantha! What is there to apologise for? IN terms of his preaching we do disagree. (I always smile when you deploy the tu quoque argument and even, on this occasion, ego quoque Opinion Page Brooks and David Bumgardner [36] Speaking about evolutionary theory, he writes that Christians "ought to expose such lies for what they are and oppose them vigorously." I dont know enough about Elevation to make that kind of judgment, but there are warning signs. Fox News Flash top headlines are here. The staff expected to have their concerns heard andconsidered. It appears this lawsuit is going in our favor, MacArthur said Sunday. Its not the first time that youve responded aggressively when a pastor that you hold in such high regard is questioned. Perhaps then a mature and open discussion could then take place. For you to say that I did makes you guilty of the thing you wrongly accuse me of and it is quite reprehensible. I will reply to them briefly. If theyre charities (and I suspect many of them will be) then theyre monitored by OSCR, and will have to submit yearly, independently audited, accounts. (Screenshot credit: Julie Roys/YouTube), Error: There was an internal error submitting your form. [9] In 1963, he was granted a Masters of Divinity from the Bible Institute of Los Angeles's new Talbot Theological Seminary, in La Mirada, California, with honors. As for ES Williams book yes I have heard of it and read several reviews -Im afraid I wont be spending the 30 on a book which just seems to want to attack and tar everyone with the same brush. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American Protestant pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated Christian teaching radio and television program Grace to You. And that is not only my perception if you look at the comments above. I have reread the comments by G Whiteand my own responses. But we must not quote our own books in sermons as far as possible! Hell is not something to be used as a curse word it is real. Ward's father, John Tucker, was also a member of the church who had been informed . Ironically tu quoque was what you were using about Chandler (as well as ad hom). You call them out or call them to repentance but see no need to repent yourself. Los Angeles County had sued the church and its pastor, John MacArthur, last August after officials said he had he opened the church and held a large indoor worship service with unmasked attendees . [16][17], Central to MacArthur's theology is a very high view of scripture (the 66 books of the Protestant Bible). Paragraph. [18] Furthermore, he believes that we are obliged to render full submission to scripture above all else and that "[t]o mishandle the Word of God is to misrepresent the One who wrote it. Someone made a sermon jam of it which I posted on my FB page and all of us, who were not of a charismatic background, really had no idea what he was saying. This following sermon was full of what can only be called psychobabble. No pastor should be above reproach, there should be no untouchables in the church; even Peter was rebuked by Paul when it was necessary. Sadly, however, there are also times when you use it to bully, abuse and browbeat. 2023 The Christian Broadcasting Network, Inc., A nonprofit 501 (c)(3) Charitable Organization. I didnt even mention Chandler in my comment, let alone call him a false teacher (and have never done so). "[44], In 2020 and 2021, during the COVID-19 global crisis, MacArthur contravened orders from Los Angeles County public health officials regarding services at Grace Community Church, and insisted that no one from the church had become seriously ill, despite reports to the contrary. [42] Furtick responded to this comment in his 2016 book Unqualified: How God Uses Broken People to Do Big Things. The remarks immediately following that statement seem to suggest that you are and illustrate the way in which you denigrate those with whom you disagree. I made no comment on how Matt Chandler lives as a Christian. It is quite shocking. As for the scandal yes I was aware of it. He teaches a completely restored Israel shall inherit physical ownership of the land of Canaan on the earth. David, you try very hard to always get the last word and I knew that the question you asked was loaded. If your love is put off by answers you dont like, then like the BeeJees I need to ask how deep is your love?! Earlier this year his church was embroiled in a scandal over their handling of a child sexual abuse case. [39], For example, with respect to sexual orientation, he asserted that "no one is gay" as "God didn't hardwire anybody"[40] to be gay any more than he "hardwires" individuals to be adulterers or bank robbers. David, once again you are making assertions that do not stand scrutiny. The entire message was based around how God can meet all MY needs. PS Im a huge Chandler fan over here. John MacArthur Responds to 2021 Julie Roys (Part One) - YouTube #pastorjohnmacarthur#johnmacarthur #gracecommunitychurch#julieroys This sermon clip is from Grace to You, it is on 1 Timothy. The Bad Sadly, whilst every church has the bad, because we are all sinners and therefore infect any structure or organization we are part of, there are sometimes churches that go much further and wander away to the extent that one can hardly call them a church at all. Sitting in a restaurant in Charleston, North Carolina, we were delighted to meet a group of four men, who included a young man from the UK, who was working for a church called Elevation in Charlotte. The trouble is that these churches are so massive and wealthy that they can afford to send their pastors all over the world, exporting their dodgy theology and even dodgier ecclesiology. But like John Flavel I regard as a pretty close second the threat of disunity in the body of Christ not least that caused by those who go around unjustly and wrongly accusing others of false teaching. But if the theology and ecclesiology is off, then alarm bells start ringing. There is nothing more basic than these. And the notion that radical Islam is going to defeat the gospel is just as daft. This is way more than urging caution, as you later suggested. Also available on most smart TVs and streaming services. The challenge (as you have already pointed out) is to warn and admonish from a place of love, and of course to pray. Furtick preaches a different gospel. Elevation Church were accused of getting 'volunteers' to come forward during the 'spontaneous' baptism services, in order to encourage others to get up out of their seats. 2) I challenge you to provide some evidence for that statement and question whether you were just against mega churches per se. By the way I got your recommended book. In John MacArthur's book, "The Truth War" he writes that " Churches today are filled with people like that. It all depends how you measure success! I fail to see where the legalism is in any of my comments. The biggest threat to the church comes not from fundamentalist atheists or those of another religion, it comes from within. And also trying to get to know what God says in His Word and please stop shouting at those you know nothing about. [25], MacArthur has stated that he opposes both "male chauvinist and feminist views. During the event, MacArthur accused the Southern Baptist Convention of . MacArthur is a strong proponent of expository preaching, and has been acknowledged by Christianity Today as one of the most influential preachers of his time. That is just nuts. I follow the goings-on of the mega church para church neocalvinist movement (call it what you will) in the USA and am frequently astounded by their antics. So I was pleased to see the topic addressed here, particularly as there is another story breaking about Mr Furtick in North Carolina even as I write this. I have no idea if you are particularly legalistic or not but the type of comments you were making, most certainly are. MacArthur 12 having been Jul 25, 2017 - Explore Rhonda Johnson's board "Elevation Church", followed . Thank you for your answer re the mega church your reason for mentioning Dallas Baptist Church favourably is because you know a young man who did some good mission work. The point I made about Matt Chandler himself is that it took the pressure from outside his church to galvanise him into doing something. Thats hypocrisy, and no, that doesnt constitute name calling. However I dont think it is wise or correct to take the givings of the Lords people to make oneself a millionaire actually that is sinful. Oh and sorry about the ironic and sarky remark about being mature enough for you! point taken). Would you add John Piper, Tim Keller and Alaister Begg to your bonfire? I dont agree that its always wrong to mock (otherwise Elijah, Paul and Jesus were wrong), and indeed sometimes mockery has its place. Your reference to Isis was, in my opinion, ill-judged given recent events. Could you tell me the difference? 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